> > 1 maeegw1.us.insnet.net (192.41.177.112) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
> > 2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec
> > 3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H * *Before you throw too many stones, these guys (I happen to know) take
transit from UUnet, and not, before you ask, over the MAE. Personally
I don't see a problem with this behaviour as a last resort.Alex Bligh
Xara Networks
I happen to know the same thing 
I never said that insnet or pipex didn't have every right to default into
UUNET, as a primary or as a last resort...
Avi