Howdy,
Could we drop the SYN/Denial thread? It's becoming rather base.
I think there are other larger issues at stake in the world, like
routing table growth, code problems, and short-thinking providers
who don't retain talent to intelligently/reliably grow their network.
If the thread is of continued significant benefit, I'd be happy to
host a mail list.
SYNDRIVEL, there's a name. Perhaps another could be suggested?
Please don't thread off that question 
-alan
......... Jim Browning is rumored to have said:
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] >From: Paul A Vixie[SMTP:paul@vix.com]
] >Sent: Monday, September 16, 1996 9:44 PM
] >
] >> Rather than "educate the enemy" via public discussion, I think it would
] be
] >> best if those capable of contributing to solutions to this problem:
] >>
] >> 1. Collaborated in private
] >> 2. Developed a consensus "I-D"
] >>
] >> If a solution is developed whose effectiveness is not weakened by making
] >> the details public, it can be published. If that is not the case, the
] >> solution can be made available in private to "known entities".
] >>
] >> Make sense?
] >
] >No, I don't think it makes sense. Aside from the lawsuits targetting you
] >for conspiracy if you don't include everybody who needs the ongoing
] partial
] >results in order to stay in business, there is NO solution to this that
] >depends on any kind of algorythmic privacy.
]
] Paul, since you have stepped forward to risk lawsuits from blacklisted
] spammers, it would only be fair for one of the rest of us to accept
] liability for this one. Where do I sign up? 
]
] I hope you are right, as the public discussion clearly is very
] worthwhile...
] --
] Jim
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