NANOG costs

We used to pay $150 or so to attend NANOG conferences.
Why are we charged $300 now? Where is our $150,000+
going?

Inflation?

Are we paying for the salaries and RIPE attendance of
MERIT employees, and to what tune?

Conference space is free or greatly subsidized in
return for room blocks. Connectivity, terminal rooms
(who uses those anyway?), operational support, and
hardware are all no-cost items to MERIT.

Continental breakfast costs $8k to sponsor. Morning
or afternoon break costs $6k. Lunch or dinner, $18k.
Beer and Gear is $6k per vendor, and has been booked
solid for the last ten NANOG conferences. That's a
lot of money right there.

So what are we actually paying for, the t-shirts? Are
we subsidizing other MERIT money losers?

With IT and engineering budgets shrinking, and
unemployment on the rise, should MERIT be obligated to
  share with us a more detailed financial accounting,
or is this none of our business?

We used to pay $150 or so to attend NANOG conferences.
Why are we charged $300 now? Where is our $150,000+
going?

Inflation?

That's certainly part of it.

Are we paying for the salaries and RIPE attendance of
MERIT employees, and to what tune?

The fees cover salaries or parts of salaries for Merit people supporting
the meetings and list. Plus we help defray expenses for non-Merit
volunteers and the occasional speaker.

Conference space is free or greatly subsidized in
return for room blocks. Connectivity, terminal rooms
(who uses those anyway?), operational support, and
hardware are all no-cost items to MERIT.

It's true that the hotel gives us some free stuff in exchange for booking
a certain number of rooms, but our costs aren't zero - Merit covers food,
A/V, and other expenses.

Continental breakfast costs $8k to sponsor. Morning
or afternoon break costs $6k. Lunch or dinner, $18k.
Beer and Gear is $6k per vendor, and has been booked
solid for the last ten NANOG conferences. That's a
lot of money right there.

Depends on how many sponsors we get, and we still have breakfast and break
openings for Toronto :slight_smile:

So what are we actually paying for, the t-shirts? Are

Yes.

minor quibble.

Nope, "Ontario, CA" would be Ontario, California to all
of us in the United States. (And KONT to all you
pilots.) :slight_smile:

"Ontario, CA" would be Ontario, Canada.

"Ontario, CA, US" would be Ontario, California.

lest you forget, the ISO did designate "US" for your country, not that it
seems to be used much.

NANOG is North American ...., which includes a couple other countries than
just them Untied States.

Unless of course, they'd like to give discounts for people who have
attended many past NANOGs are who are now unemployeed. :slight_smile:

Unfortunately discounts just aren't feasible - there'd be administrative
problems and questions of fairness to other attendees (and to Merit, since
our per-attendee costs wouldn't change.) Plus, we're not sure it would
solve the problem, considering everyone's high travel and hotel costs.

There's always multicast and RealAudio ...

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>
> minor quibble.
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> "Richmond Hill, Ontario, CN"

iso-3166 says cn is china, that might further than I'm willing to travel
for nanog.

Chinese poutine. The mind reels.

But if you like Chinese food, you won't have any problems finding lots
of it there :slight_smile:

K