Muni network ownership and the Fourth

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Oh, sure; most muni's contract out the build, and often the day to day
operation and customer support load, to a contractor.

But that wouldn't really help as much in this case, I don't think; that
contract would create an agency relationship, and the contractor would not
protect such log data (if it existed, which for L1 and L2 service, it would
not as this argument posits it) *from the responsible IT employees of the
municipality*.

Cheers,
-- jr 'IANAL, I just play one on the Internet' a

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I'd like to join Jay, Scott, Leo, and presumably Dave
supporting muni network ownership -- or at least a
not-for-profit entity.

I tried to start one a decade ago, but a lawsuit was
threatened by the incumbent cable provider (MediaOne in
those days) who claimed an exclusive right. Since then
the state law has been changed, so we really ought to
look into it again here.

Although the 4th Amendment originally applied to only
the Federal Government (states routinely violated it),
the 14th Amendment applies it to the state (and local)
governments now.

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+1

i'm indifferent to the "public-can't" rational as munis appear to do
an adequate job of water and power delivery-to-the-curb, in eugene,
palo alto, san francisco, ... and the capacity of fiber obsoletes the
early telephone and telegraph notion of poll space contention, a basis
for an earlier "natural monopoly" theory.

i'm also indifferent to the "leo-in-the-noc" rational as the
separation is presently somewhat fictive and overzealous prosecutions
are the norm.

-e

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So, you're saying "muni transport is bad because there's *less* separation"
is actually a red herring; private transport carriers are little better
protected?

Yeah, I'll buy that.

Cheers,
-- jra

5

ifHCin-が64bitでifin-が32bitカウンタのMIBなんですね
勘違いしてました。

6

Not to sidestep the conversation here .. but, Leo, I love your concept
of the muni network, MMR, etc. What city currently implements this? I
want to move there! :slight_smile:
-Zach

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In a message written on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:03:51PM -0500, Zachary Giles wrote:

Not to sidestep the conversation here .. but, Leo, I love your concept
of the muni network, MMR, etc. What city currently implements this? I
want to move there! :slight_smile:

I don't know any in the US that have the model I describe. :frowning:

My limited understanding is some other countries have a similar model,
but I don't know of any good english language summaries. For instance I
believe the model used in Sweeden is substantially similar to what I
describe...