> > > What kinds of routers can route at near wire speeds a bunch of ports at
> > > 155Mb ATM?
> >
> > None right now. Gigarouter can handle it theoretically, but...
> >
> > I'm being picky, but it's a moot question since doing wirespeed OC3c using
> > ATM is impossible in of itself. Hell, mapping of
> > SONET framings to ATM cells take off about 6 mbps right there.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

By the way, I did not post the above..

Oops. Replied to the right thread but wrong author.

> A couple of minor corrections here. ATM cells are mapped into SONET frames and
> not the reverse. Also, I presume that the 6 Mbps that you are talking about is that
> the ATM bit rate over an OC-3 is 149 Mbps as opposed to the OC-3 pipe
> rate of 155 Mbps. Those 6 Mbps are taken up by the SONET management overhead
> (section, line, and path) in the frame. This is independent of whatever goes in the
> SONET payload envelope and has nothing to do with ATM.

It seems to me that Sonet OC-3 is often taken as transport for 3 DS3s,
which would reduce 155.530 Mbps to 134.208 Mbps (3 x 44.736 Mbps), less
than the 149 Mbps you cite above.

The 149 Mbps assumes that you have a native ATM/OC-3 interface where
the SONET transport is STS-3c ('c' for concatenated). Here, a single connection
can use the full bandwidth of the pipe.

In your example, a DS-3 gets mapped into an STS-1 and then 3 STS-1s get muliplexed into an
STS-3. The multiplexing is for trunking purposes and there is no relation between any
of the STS-1's (other than they are byte multiplexed). Thus, the maximum bandwidth
available for any single connection is 51 Mbps (or DS-3 in this case).

Routers with ATM/OC-3 interfaces do STS-3c framing.

Do you have a good recommendation for Gordon Cook, TCP/IP direct over Sonet?

I've heard rumblings about such work going on but I am not personally familiar with
any of it. The only thing I can think of is some work that the IETF did for
PPP over SONET (RFC 1619). I *think* it became an Internet Standard.