Hi,
We're looking around for a new colocation provider for aroudn
~100Mbit traffic. (Not much for the average NANOG participant I'm
sure, but that's what we've got ...
)
Level3 are giving us a pretty good quote; and all their competitors'
sales bozos ramble on about how they're "second tier" and bla bla
bla.
What's the (technical) truth? Does Level3 have decent connectivity
(primarily from their colos in the Bay Area and Los Angeles). From
what traceroutes and such I can do it looks just fine and Yahoo
wouldn't be using them if they sucked that badly, huh?
Any gotchas we should be aware of about Level3?
FWIW, the other facilities we're looking at are Digital Island and
Exodus.
Any others that would be recommended?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. If you answer offlist then
I can summarize later in the week. (Without your name if you'd
prefer that).
- ask
Level3 are giving us a pretty good quote; and all their competitors'
sales bozos ramble on about how they're "second tier" and bla bla
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
*groan*
Not again. The next time that the t-word comes up on NANOG within a week
of an argument about how meaningless it is... I shall have to scream.
(For now, I'll settle for putting a lame pun in the subject line, with
apologies to Ozzy Osbourne, Johnson & Johnson Baby Shampoo, and whoever
else.)
CAIDA, MIQ, and Boardwatch are your friends. Ask around on inet-access
for customer stories.
Eddy
Uh, the whole point was to get information that was more clued than
the sales droids mumblings about tiers.
I've received a good handful of very clued mails. Thanks a lot; let
it keep coming. General consensus is that Level3 is good, Exodus
gets good and bad ratings, and several have suggsted that I look at
Above.Net.
I'll summarize when the mails stop tickling in.
  - ask
I hereby propose that somebody get hold of 3 or 4 trash /24s, and that
each of them be attached to one of the alledged tier-1s - and then each
Tier-1 be required to pay transit to the other Tier-1's /24s.
Even if there's no actual traffic, then EVERYBODY will be paying
SOMEBODY for transit, and we can put this crock to rest. 
You may want to take a look at the resource
www.colosource.com they have an online free directory
of over 500 different colocation providers organized
by state and area-code.
Just an Idea..............