I have avoided getting into this debate, but this has really gone
too far. Bob Allisat's contention is that any ISP that attempts
to filter content is violating "inalienable rights and freedoms"
is way off the mark.
Ok, Mr. Allisat, I'll bite -- explain to me what "right" is being
violated when I stop a spammer that is trying to advertise "Hot
Pussy Sites" to eleven year old children? Or how about get rich
quick schemes that forge their addresses to hide their identities
so you can not trace them after they rip you off? Or chain letters
that clog mail spools while susceptible people worry about their
outcomes if they don't comply with the letter?
You scream "inalienable rights and freedoms", but your motive is
to promote and encourage those that would prey on the most
susceptable of our society. Freedom that robs our children of
their innocence, promotes con artists, and feeds on the vulnerable
is not freedom, Mr. Allisat!
But I think you have another axe to grind as well. Your letter
to Karl Denninger contains the following exerpts:
* "Whatever rights, freedoms and liberties we have are eliminated
in favour of Kangaroo courts like Vixie's network or RBL finks,
Customer Services flunkies and over-bearing capitalists ..."
* "They hide behind arguments that their systems are private
property and their alleged "property rights" are more important
than our inalienable rights and freedoms."
* "Our rights to security over our data and communications, to
privacy and access to commercial and personal e-mail, etc are
all *SUPERIOR* to any tertiary rights these business organizations
* "We have universal, inalienable rights and freedoms. These
precious things extend to private property and internationally."
Based on these statements, I can only conlude you have a huge
problem with the capitalistic system, and that you favor the
elimination of private property in order to foster your "freedom".
That is the same argument Fidel Casto uses on the people he
suppresses, and was the common theme among communist countries
before the fall of the Berlin wall. Joseph Stalin shared your
views on private property. I don't. As a capitalist, I find
your ideas offensive and misguided.
Wake up Mr. Allisat -- you already have a feee system. One that
can choose whether to filter spam or not. One that can choose
whether to give his private property away or not. Your concept
of "inalienable rights and freedoms" is one that would force all
ISPs to do things YOUR way, instead of the current free choice
system we currently have.
And one other point -- calling the people that help customers
configure their systems to connect to the Internet "Customer
Services flunkies" is insensitive and unfair. I know the employees
that work for my company go out of their way to make sure every
customer is helped and treated with respect, regardless of the
customers experience with computers or the Internet. That is one
of the advantages of paying for Internet service -- you get real
customer service from people who actually care whether or not
your experience is a positive one. That is capitalism.
Paul Vixie and his team of "RBL finks" are to be commended on the
excellent job they have done in stopping the poisonous assult of
pornographic filth, fraud, and manipulation that spam brings to
people everyday. And for people that want to take the RBL even
further, we provide a list via autoresponder at firstname.lastname@example.org
that blocks even more of this crud. And here is the best part --
its up to the FREEDOM of the individuals that use these resources
to determine if and how they want to use them.
There are no "inalienable rights and freedoms" that give spammers
unrestricted access to the Internet. Even the courts have upheld
the right of ISPs to block and filter spam -- see the URL
If you want to use your time and resources to foster and promote
the activites of people that prey upon society at large, go right
ahead -- that's "freedom", and it is your "right" to do so. I have
always found it interesting that the people the scream the loudest
about their rights do it in the context of denying others their
rights. As an ISP, I have the right to choose. And I choose not
to do business with spammers.
US Net Incorporated
Bob Allisat writes: