ISPACs

I think that putting together RFCs that propose that ISDs pursue
certain legal and financial arrangements is well outside the scope of
the operations area and the IETF for that matter. I don't see this as
an allocation issue or a technical issue wrt policy routing. As is
applies to operating a small provider and a potential means to
cooperate with other small providers by forming some sort of
consortium it maybe could be considered an operations area item. I
think what you have here is out of scope.

Sorry if my note seemed like an out of hand dismissal but I just
don't see that this works from a business standpoint and I also think
the IETF is the wrong forum for proposing a style of consortium even
if it was a great idea.

I'll be quiet now and let others comment.

Curtis

I think that putting together RFCs that propose that ISDs pursue
   certain legal and financial arrangements is well outside the scope of
   the operations area and the IETF for that matter. I don't see this as
   an allocation issue or a technical issue wrt policy routing. As is
   applies to operating a small provider and a potential means to
   cooperate with other small providers by forming some sort of
   consortium it maybe could be considered an operations area item. I
   think what you have here is out of scope.

Curtis,

I think you miss the point. The goal is to solve technical problems
(aggregation, renumbering). The side effects are legal and financial and
we get blasted if we _don't_ discuss them. Years of CIDR bashing has made
us, uh, somewhat sensitive to this. So this time, we're trying to discuss
those issues up front.

Tony