If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really are....
Uhm, I don't think you can blame the legislators for this one. Almost
identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
Sean Donelan wrote:
> If it is, it reveals how utterly clueless our legislators really are....
> >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595
Uhm, I don't think you can blame the legislators for this one. Almost
identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
Now, -that's- using your noodle.
With just a little investigative work, we should be able
to find out which of the "Righteous Vigilante Right"
was running around championing this concept....
Usually, you find someone who is a member of a politically
active group, perhaps a church group, or lobbying group,
who has a child, and walked in upon him/her opening up a pornographic
spam....
And then, with tears streaming from their eyes, knowing their
"innocent darling Pat" has been corrupted, and -damned- for all eternity...
They become determined to lead us all to
the "One True Path" of righteousness...
The Universal WorldWide Creation of "Pat's Law".
(Pause for Hysterical Sobbing for the Now Damned soul)
(Que: Triumphant Angelic Music)
With Such bogus Rhetoric as their foundation,
as:
"You want our children to be -=safe=-, don't you ?"
(Scratch Record, stop music abruptly!)
Most people are dumbfounded when encountering
such Rhetoric... for some reason, they can't
seperate the answer to the logical trap posed in the
wording that they have stepped into,
from the -=real=- answer to the problem....
Most people internally cognate the answer "Yes" to the above question,
and then can't understand why they find themselves
agreeing with the RVR's proselytizer....
* dohh *
I.E: "Do you beat your wife, often ?!"
:*
The real way to combat such morally reprehensible
manipulation of logic of the verbal exchange is
to identify the underlying fallacy.
So, instead of "Yes", answer:
"Of course we do, Schmuck, that is why we oppose such a
negligent abuse of power and the subsequent
creation of ludicrous laws... by emotionally
blinded idiots, such as yourself... and seek a -real- solution,
instead of attempting to "legislate" something you simply
don't understand, ineffectively."
Yup. Find the Fallacy, and soon one understands why the
RVR's really should seek -=therapy=-, not political office.
So, in conclusion:
"You want to be Safe -and- Free, don't you ?"
:P
.Richard.
Historical Quote:
"Any resemblance between this post,
and current political practices,
are purely intentional."
=====> So, has Babylon Fallen, Yet ? 
Actually, it's the copyright people, it appears.
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/doc/2003/mpaa_27mar.pdf
Follow the money. *SIGH*
You mean Richard Irving was _wrong_ ??? Wow.
> Sean Donelan wrote:
> > identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> > an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
> Now, -that's- using your noodle.
> With just a little investigative work, we should be able
> to find out which of the "Righteous Vigilante Right"
> was running around championing this concept....
>
> Usually, you find someone who is a member of a politically
> active group, perhaps a church group, or lobbying group,
> who has a child, and walked in upon him/her opening up a pornographic
> spam....
Actually, it's the copyright people, it appears.http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/doc/2003/mpaa_27mar.pdf
Follow the money. *SIGH*
Ah, yes. The -=one=- motive more powerful than even
self preservation of the species...
* Greed *
Did you know that in Africa, there is a humane monkey trap
that has been used for countless ages...
Sun Flower seeds in an empty coconut shell, securely mounted.
With a narrow opening in the top of the shell, the monkey reaches in,
and grabs a handful of seeds......
But, with its hand -full- of seeds, it cannot withdraw it
from the Narrow Opening in the top of the coconut....
You have to check these traps often, though...
The Monkey will starve to death, rather than release the
hand full of seeds.....
Did you know that man's genomes are roughly 98% Simian ?
Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > Sean Donelan wrote:
> > > identical legislation being introduced in six different states? I suspect
> > > an outside influence was involved in drafting the proposed legislation.
> >
> > Now, -that's- using your noodle.
> >
> > With just a little investigative work, we should be able
> > to find out which of the "Righteous Vigilante Right"
> > was running around championing this concept....
> >
> > Usually, you find someone who is a member of a politically
> > active group, perhaps a church group, or lobbying group,
> > who has a child, and walked in upon him/her opening up a pornographic
> > spam....
>
> Actually, it's the copyright people, it appears.
>
> http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/doc/2003/mpaa_27mar.pdf
>
> Follow the money. *SIGH*
You mean Richard Irving was _wrong_ ??? Wow.
It would be a miracle, eh ? Agreed.
But, Alas, you confuse a hypothesis, with a conclusion.
Better luck next time.
:P
: self preservation of the species...
:
: * Greed *
:
: Did you know that in Africa, there is a humane monkey trap
: that has been used for countless ages...
:
: Sun Flower seeds in an empty coconut shell, securely mounted.
:
: With a narrow opening in the top of the shell, the monkey reaches in,
: and grabs a handful of seeds......
:
: But, with its hand -full- of seeds, it cannot withdraw it
: from the Narrow Opening in the top of the coconut....
:
: You have to check these traps often, though...
:
: The Monkey will starve to death, rather than release the
: hand full of seeds.....
:
: Did you know that man's genomes are roughly 98% Simian ?
:
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My apologies, I accidentally hit ^X instead of ^K when editing an eamil.
I was going to make a smartass comment, included below, just not to the
whole NANOG community.
Apologies,
scott
: : Did you know that man's genomes are roughly 98% Simian ?
So, randy was correct the other week about network monkeys?
scott
The text I saw talks about a device's "primary purpose". The primary
purpose of NAT is not to hide anything, it's to allow multiple
connections to share a scarce resource. If you download your email
over an encrypted link, your primary purpose is to conceal the
*content* of communications, not their source or destination.
Similarly, the primary purpose of a firewall is to enforce policies
about security, not to hide the origin of a communication.
So the issue is really more narrow. The issue is whether it's ever
legitimate to do something primarily for the purpose of hiding the
origin or destination of a communication from an ISP. I would argue
that most people don't care if their ISPs know where there
communications originate or terminate; however, the law is bad
because there certainly are legitimate cases where my ISP has no
business knowing who is talking to me or who I'm talking to.
However, Felten's claim that "anything that concealed the origin"
would be illegal is FUD. In fact, his spin no it is pure FUD, IMO.
That said, if it takes a bit of FUD to get attention to a bad law,
that's maybe not such a terribly bad thing. The risk is that
lawmakers will refute the FUD and then feel comfortable going ahead
with a bad law.