NANOGers -
If you make use of ARIN’s unauthenticated IRR service or the NONAUTH data stream in your route filtering, please take note of the following ARIN consultation.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
Hi John,
What happens to the route objects (and for that matter the OriginAS field in the Whois-RWS system) that were created before the IRR-online service was launched? Are the route objects (and/or OriginAS fields from the Whois-RWS system) which were registered by ARIN members for their own directly allocated ARIN resources going to be ported along to the new system (e.g. not proxy-registered objects), or do we start with a fully clean slate where it is expected that everyone re-creates their route objects in the IRR-online service before the September 2021 deadline?
Best regards,
Martijn Schmidt
i3D.net / AS49544
Martijn -
This does not affect entries in the ARIN’s Whois system so OriginAS fields are unaffected.
The new IRR-online system was a clean slate when announced and all objects therein have been freshly created by the authorized party. Folks with routing information in the unauthenticated email-IRR system have the option to port their data into the new IRR (see https://www.arin.net/announcements/20200610-irr/ for details) until email-IRR shutdown at the end of September 2021. Note that ARIN will not be porting that data.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
Hi John,
Thanks for the answer. In that case I would recommend to continue providing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream beyond the system shutdown state, while continuing to allow for stale objects to be deleted: manually, or automated based on Whois-RWS OriginAS data, or automated based on IRR-online data, or automated based on RPKI ROA data. Ideally all four, especially the automated ones…
While September 2021 may seem a long time away, you’ll probably still impact somebody that didn’t read the mails by outright removing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream rather than working to clean it up.
Best regards,
Martijn Schmidt
i3D.net / AS49544
Martijn -
Excellent insight. To be fair, it would be best to if you were to subscribe to our arin-consult mailing list and express your views over there so you can be part of the discussion (as others there may have useful feedback or suggest alternatives that may sway your thoughts on how we should best proceed…)
I’d prefer not to engage in a prolonged discussion here on the nanog mailing list, since not everyone here has a high interest in minutiae of ARIN’s services – essentially the same reason we have a dedicated list over at ARIN for consultation on proposed service changes.
I will note your input whether you join us or not - Thanks again!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers