Hello all,
I have just completed my initial creation of an
"Internet Architecture : Meta Diagram"
( http://navigators.com/internet_architecture.html )
My Intention with this page is to answer the Question:
"What are the major pieces of the Internet,
and who are the major players in each segment?"
I have created a "very tall diagram" with 8 sections, covering the
connection from a Users's PC -> local Loop -> ISP POP - > Backbones ->
online content -> etc.
In each section, I hope to mention most of the significant parts of the
architecture. I also link to the top couple of vendors in each category,
and then link to a more extensive list of vendors.
What I am looking for is a sanity check of the diagram, and most
importantly, your opinion as to who are the largest 3-4 vendors in each
section. I recognize that the diagram is US-centric and contains some
leading edge components as well (LMDS, cable modems, etc)
I am continuing to refine the page, so any feedback you provide should be
incorporated almost immediately. Thanks in advance.
Russ Haynal
http://navigators.com/internet_architecture.html
( http://navigators.com/internet_architecture.html )
My Intention with this page is to answer the Question:
"What are the major pieces of the Internet,
and who are the major players in each segment?"
I have created a "very tall diagram" with 8 sections, covering the
connection from a Users's PC -> local Loop -> ISP POP - > Backbones ->
online content -> etc.
And it has no routers in the network diagrams. What a tremendous savings!
Welcome to the new internet. No wonder users are confused.
<sigh>
randy
??? - huh? Are we looking at the same Diagram?
Under "User's Communications Equipment": Item 8 = Routers
Under "ISP Backbone" : Diagram points to "Large Capacity Switches and Routers"
: Item 3 = routers
I do recognize that there are additional details that could be added in
some places, but I am trying to follow a 90/10 rule in order to fit the
diagram within the limits of a web page (and my limited artistic abilities)
I've tried to segment "the Internet" diagram based on the function being
performed (i.e. local loop transport, content hosting, etc) I have not yet
thought a better approach to try and provide a "big picture" Believe me,
If I discovered an existing online resource that did this well, I would
just have linked to it for my Internet classes. Having not found such a
resource, I took it upon myself to go ahead and create one for my clients
(The rest of the Internet is free to use it as well)
It is not clear to me where you see a deficiency WRT Routers - I remain
interested in specific suggestions to improve the page. For example,
someone pointed out that I mention ATM but not Sonet.
Russ
>And it has no routers in the network diagrams. What a tremendous savings!
??? - huh? Are we looking at the same Diagram?
No. You are not looking at the DIAGRAM.
I do recognize that there are additional details that could be added in
some places, but I am trying to follow a 90/10 rule in order to fit the
diagram within the limits of a web page (and my limited artistic
abilities)
When the 90/10 rule leaves routers out of internet architecture, the posting
does not belong on nanog. I leave it to others to judge where it might
belong.
randy
( http://navigators.com/internet_architecture.html )
My Intention with this page is to answer the Question:
"What are the major pieces of the Internet,
and who are the major players in each segment?"
I have created a "very tall diagram" with 8 sections, covering the
connection from a Users's PC -> local Loop -> ISP POP - > Backbones ->
online content -> etc.
And it has no routers in the network diagrams. What a tremendous savings!
There pretty clearly *are* routers in the diagram. Those would be those
little blue and green interconnected dots. You can tell by the "Large
Capacity Routers and Switches" label. Perhaps you didn't see the same
diagram I saw.
I might suggest that more detail on the variation of the corporate network
could be helpful. Internal networks of large corporations like Hitachi (7th
largest corporation in the world) are many times more complicated than even
large ISP interconnects. I find this is the biggest problem that most
people I talk to have. They understand a dialup connection. They
understand an ethernet. They don't understand that the technology to scale
their company from 5 to 50 to 300 to 10,000 is much different from one
scale to another. They mainly don't understand the scaling issues.
Welcome to the new internet. No wonder users are confused.
People are confused when they look quickly, don't grasp all the details,
and then flame. Ready, fire, aim. Doesn't matter how good the diagram
is, you apparently can't avoid the fact that people will not look at it
before offering their opinion to others. Anyway, I think it looks like a
pretty reasonable diagram. If all end users (and some network engineers)
understood that much, I think we would have made great progress.
--Dean
Well, as a lurker on this list, (no more !) let me say that the diagram
made a nice conceptual, and contextual, grouping for a useful set of
links on the right hand side.
I found lots of good stuff the other side of the links.
Good job, there.
Cheers, Andy!