Here we go again.

The list is not the proper forum for a debate on this topic, and I'm not
trying to start one.

But ask yourself *now* what happens if you get these kinds of orders, so
that you can give a reasoned answer.

  https://plus.google.com/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/TYxXkeQ2jPW

Cheers,
-- jra

Not trying to start a debate but let me post a controversial topic that is just a guess at what someone might do. Yeah, Ok.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL

You're right, this is not the forum. So why are you abusing it?

-mel beckman

I do think it's a fair thing to drop in everyone's lap though. Something to think about, and consider, even if privately and to ones self.

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The list is not the proper forum for a debate on this topic, and I'm not
trying to start one.

But ask yourself *now* what happens if you get these kinds of orders, so
that you can give a reasoned answer.

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There are plenty of reasons for thinking people to be terrified today.
I don't know why you've chosen to focus on such a small one. Here's a
bigger one:

http://bit.ly/2fTdmiG

P.S. I agree completely that this is not the proper forum for either
discussion or debate on these matters. But given that adherence to
the ordinary rules of politness and proper decorum quite clearly did
nothing, in the end, to prevent last night's outcome, I for one am
willing to forgo them, within limits, e.g. when some of the elephants
in the room become just too big to ignore.

Hi Jay,

I think this discussion is premature. We can hypothesize any number of
evils from the President Elect but until someone introduces a bill we
can only tilt at windmills.

Besides, you are aware of his record of doing what his "handlers" want
him to do, right? :wink:

Regards,
Bill Herrin

Hi all,

Please consider our Mail List Charter and Policy: http://nanog.org/list

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In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of
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Kind regards,

Job

Thank you.

Ok--so on a somewhat NANOG-related note...please tell me that's not a
*real* picture of the nuclear football and that our lives aren't in
the hands of Windows Vista... :wink:

-A

https://youtu.be/Yi_2020LJQo

The president elect chose Mr Eisenach to help fill jobs in FCC and other
telecom areas of govt.

Mr Eisenach is a regular "expert witness" hired by Telus in Canada at
CRTC hearing. In last week's CRTC hearing on net neutrality, he held his
very standard pro-incumbent stance against it. And the same arguments
will be used to convicne the USA to drop net neutrality to help foster
"dynamic competition" (euphemism for "unregulated duopoly").

It is a given that discussion on banning zero rating of content in USA
will not happen.

It is highly possible that Title II reclassification of ISPs will be
revoked.

Ted Cruz tried to block the IANA re-organisation.

So the direction of where things will be going is fairly clear.

AT&T announced zero rated video (aka T0-Mobile with throttling) just
after the election so they are quite confident this won't be blocked by
FCC. (although merger with Time Warner may be blocked).

Consumers can always chose with their wallet.

As long as you have options, which is the basic problem. There isn't real
alternative options.