!! (fwd)

Hans-Werner,

1. I am forced to assume that CIX membership does not connect me to
the NSF backbone therefore I am missing half of the Internet! If
this is true, how do I connect to the other half?

CIX membership provides exactly that; connectivity to CIX members.
ANS is a CIX member but the CIX rules (as they have been explained
to me) prohibit one service provider from acting as transit between
the CIX membership and other service providers (non-CIX members).
So if NSFNET regionals are not CIX members, the CIX filters traffic
with those non-members.

The only solution is to talk to service providers which will redistribute
the NSFNET routes and try to make a deal (if your customers agree to
only send traffic which is AUP compliant to the NSFNET service.)

2. With CIDR and Number aggregation, we are expected to provide our
customer networks a number range from our larger range. However, we
cannot get a number range from INTERNIC. They expect us to get ours
from "our supplier". Is this CIX? Or do you have to contract with a
"supplier" who has NSF Backbone connections to get a IP number range?
I guess I thought that we would be a supplier!

It was my understanding that you have to define yourself as a supplier
and let the Internic know your status.

What am I missing?
Dave Nordlund nordlund@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu
University of Kansas 913/864-0450
Computing Services FAX 913/864-0485
Lawrence, KS 66045

I am not on the com-priv list but perhaps someone on the regional-techs
list has more information concerning these questions.
     --Elise

Elise,

If I'm wrong on this, I'm hoping to be gently corrected and not
severely flamed as I might be on com-priv.

The only solution is to talk to service providers which will redistribute
the NSFNET routes and try to make a deal (if your customers agree to
only send traffic which is AUP compliant to the NSFNET service.)

Isn't connecting to ANS and paying the ANS CO+RE fee an option? Or
connecting through a provider that has paid the ANS CO+RE fee? I
thought that fund was set up so commercial providers could connect to
NSF and contribute to the cost so that NSF only directly funds RE.

I thought that was the current status although some people violently
disagree with NSF's decision to make that option available.

Wearing asbestos underware just in case,

Curtis