It's not not OT, or about politics.
It's not about they are guilty or not since I Don't
care.
It's about that "the FBI finally cares, and will bust
the script kiddies."
This will scare them and will decrease the DDoS
attacks from now and on.
So ISPs and NSPs should work more with FBI and such
parties to decrease the DDoS.
Thanks,
-J
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warning-- this isn't offtopic even though it proceeds from a thread that is.
dalnetuzer@yahoo.com (John Obi) writes:
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It's about that "the FBI finally cares, and will bust
the script kiddies."This will scare them and will decrease the DDoS
attacks from now and on.
that's nonsequitur. four times in the last two months, a "life flight"
helicopter has landed near where i live, to pick up some motorcyclist who
lost a race against oncoming traffic on this twisty mountain road, and
take them to stanford hospital for emergency care. three new roadside
shrines tell the stories of those who did not survive that trip. every
motorcyclist who socializes up at alice's restaurant knows all this, but
today i can still hear the pitched whine of wristrocket roadracers who
can't tell the difference between reality and a video game.
the FBI can add a thrill to the business, or even toughen up the low end
of the business, but the people doing ddos-for-hire are mostly teenagers
or twentysomethings who still believe, like many motorcyclists down on my
local highway, that they will live forever and that bad things only happen
to people less careful and less lucky than themselves.
however:
So ISPs and NSPs should work more with FBI and such
parties to decrease the DDoS.
this should absolutely be done, since toughening up the low end will have
good long term effects -- eventually we'll make ddos-for-hire into a high
end crime, and law enforcement will take it seriously enough to spend the
hundreds of millions of tax dollars (or rubles or whatever) needed to hire
and train and equip the gigantic staff of investigators needed to keep the
internet from collapsing in on itself from the weight of all this garbage.
It's not not OT, or about politics.
It's not about they are guilty or not since I Don't
care.It's about that "the FBI finally cares, and will bust
the script kiddies."This will scare them and will decrease the DDoS
attacks from now and on.
D/DoS is a fact of life that happens continuously non-stop. FBI intervening
here probably may have certain effect in general atmosphere among the
packet kiddies, but there is no solid data that says DDoS attacks have
decreased.
So ISPs and NSPs should work more with FBI and such
parties to decrease the DDoS.
More like, ISP and NSP's should start with things like BCP38/uRPF on their
edge boxes, and start deploying features & systems that assist their customers
in the event of DDoS (e.g. bgp blackhole).
-J
D/DoS is a fact of life that happens continuously non-stop. FBI intervening
here probably may have certain effect in general atmosphere among the
packet kiddies, but there is no solid data that says DDoS attacks have
decreased.
Death and perhaps taxes are facts of life. Until about 10 years ago DDOS
didn't exist. Hopefully 10 years from now it will go the way of the
Betamax.
-Hank
vixie@vix.com (Paul Vixie) writes:
... four times in the last two months, a "life flight" helicopter has ...
oops, five times. the helicopter engine noise i was listening to while
typing the above, turned out to be another red one from stanford hospital.
my apologies to anyone who was confused by the above misinformation.
10 years is a long time..... Here's to hoping we survive that long.