how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum?
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how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum?
Bill, Nicolas Deffayet just wanted a NOG for himself. Let him play.
For those who are not members of the 6bone or who do not know France,
let's remind them that:
* NDsoftware does not exist (it is not in the French directory of
companies)
* Mike Cheney does not exist (NDsoftware lists several english names
because it is "more serious" but all of them are actually fake)
* Euronog is just a spinoff of NDsoftware, no operator ever
participated in it.
Stephane,
As in the output below when you go to their web site?
"
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
"
Henk,
http://www.euronog.org/ returns a page for me.
Go to Sponsers and click on the one and only sponsor.
Do you have a URL for the above forum? google isn't returning anything useful.
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/index.html
Meetings are usually organized on the Monday/Tuesday of the RIPE meetings.
Over the last years, focus shifted from technical presentations to
advanced tutorials, though there are plans to reverse that. Next session
will be May 12-13 in Barcelona, Spain.
Henk
As requested by Pascal Gloor on EuroNOG mailing-list, i reply to
Stephane's message.
Flames & co > /dev/null
a message of 45 lines which said:
> how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum?
Bill, Nicolas Deffayet just wanted a NOG for himself. Let him play.
For those who are not members of the 6bone or who do not know France,
let's remind them that:* NDsoftware does not exist (it is not in the French directory of
companies)
NDSoftware exist.
* Mike Cheney does not exist (NDsoftware lists several english names
because it is "more serious" but all of them are actually fake)
Mike CHENEY exist. Mike is (with 2 other people) the EuroNOG founder.
* Euronog is just a spinoff of NDsoftware, no operator ever
participated in it.
EuroNOG is neutral.
NDSoftware is just a sponsor for domain, website and hosting.
There is many operators on euronog@ml.euronog.org and there are active:
1: First message
2 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
2: EuroNOG (European Network Operators Group)
3 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
3: lets start!!!
3 Feb 2003 Pascal Gloor
4: Re: lets start!!!
3 Feb 2003 Pascal Gloor
5: Re: lets start!!!
3 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
6: Welcome & Workgroup Proposal
4 Feb 2003 Jan Czmok
7: Re: Welcome & Workgroup Proposal
4 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
8: Re: lets start!!!
4 Feb 2003 Blindauer Emmanuel
9: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
10: Re: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
11: Re: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
12: "...explain how Euronog will differ..." ?
4 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
13: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Daniel Concepcion
14: Re: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
15: Re: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Michael Hallgren
16: Re: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Daniel Concepcion
17: Re: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
18: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
19: explanations needed
5 Feb 2003 Pascal Gloor
20: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Jan Czmok
21: Re: explanations needed
5 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
22: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Jan Czmok
23: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Daniel Concepcion
24: NOC contact list...database development...
5 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
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euronog-subscribe@ml.euronog.org.
My co-Bill, the estimable Mr. Manning wrote:
>>> how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European
>>> Operator Forum?
Mr. DEFAYET replied:
> NDSoftware exist.
> Mike CHENEY exist.
> EuroNOG is neutral.
However, I'm not sure that actually constituted an answer to the question.
-Bill