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Oh, and you'd be surprised what can be done at the 11th hour. I know I was.

I was not referring to before the shut off, but rather, after the shutoff.
The shutoff is at "midnight" ... after all 11th hours attempts have failed
to prevent it. The owners may not come forth, and perhaps even the employees
won't either. But that's their choice. I do believe that if someone else
reports (and names) some ISP as being actually shutdown (as opposed to just
reporting they are in financial trouble and may shut down) then there is
nothing wrong with it.

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Oh, and you'd be surprised what can be done at the 11th hour. I know I

was.

I was not referring to before the shut off, but rather, after the shutoff.
The shutoff is at "midnight" ... after all 11th hours attempts have failed
to prevent it. The owners may not come forth, and perhaps even the employees
won't either. But that's their choice. I do believe that if someone else
reports (and names) some ISP as being actually shutdown (as opposed to just
reporting they are in financial trouble and may shut down) then there is
nothing wrong with it.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. You probably cannot know what is
going on behind the scenes after the packets stop flowing any more (and in
most cases even less so) than before the packets stop flowing. As an
outsider, it is even more likely that you cannot know what damage will be
done by making such knowledge public.

And even if no damage is done, it's still someone else's network. Let them
run it, and publicize it, as they please. Why do you get to know about it?
Because you want to talk to their customers? Then call their customers
and ask, just like you would with any other outage.

Curiosity is not an excuse for invasion of privacy.

-- *-----------------------------* Phil Howard KA9WGN * --

TTFN,
patrick

I Am Not An Isp
www.ianai.net
ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com>
"Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle

3

How does one look up Japan domain registrations?

Thanks,
D.

4

How does one look up Japan domain registrations?

whois -h whois.nic.ad.jp help

Japanese required for reading the info in some cases.

D.

wfms

5

The IP and AS allocations are at APNIC

i.e.
whois -h whois.apnic.net 202.217.191

The InterNIC appears to still contain the domain records, so something
like:

whois -h whois.internic.net iac.co.jp

will work.

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Actually there should be no Japanese reading required if you attach a /e
to the end of your request as follows:

martini/martini/u1/jeremiah>whois -h whois.nic.ad.jp ad.jp/e
[ JPNIC database provides information on network administration. Its use
is ]
[ restricted to network administration purposes. For further information,
use ]
[ 'whois -h whois.nic.ad.jp help'. To suppress Japanese output, add '/e'
at ]
[ the end of command, e.g. 'whois -h whois.nic.ad.jp xxx/e'.
]

Domain Information:
a. [Domain Name] AD.JP
g. [Organization] Administrative Domain
j. [Address]
l. [Organization Type]
m. [Administrative Contact]
n. [Technical Contact]
p. [Name Server] ns1.nic.ad.jp
p. [Name Server] ns.wide.ad.jp
p. [Name Server] ns0.iij.ad.jp
p. [Name Server] dns0.spin.ad.jp
p. [Name Server] ns-jp.sinet.ad.jp
s. [Network Number]
y. [Reply Mail]
[State] Connected
[Last Update] 96/11/05 10:34:29 (JST)
                                bind-admin@nic.ad.jp
martini/martini/u1/jeremiah>

Jeremiah

Jeremiah Kristal
Qwest Internet Solutions
Manager, Network Services
201-319-5764

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Darin Divinia wrote:

How does one look up Japan domain registrations?

Thanks,
D.

I guess this is as good an opening as any (although a little premature I
fear) to follow up a message I sent a while ago.

We've built a website that is 'almost' non-embarassing, to serve as a
jumping off stage for some useful tools.

http://www.geektools.com has a smart whois interface, which will take
either a fqdn, an ip address, or a domain name, from any tld, and will
attempt to return an answer. It has taken some work to standardize the
formats of some of the obscure registries, and will take more work. But
it is useful now.

It also has a a comprehensive (though not complete) compilation of
publicly accessible traceroute gateways, categorized by country, with
major network if known. Please be aware that some of these may not be
designed for high useage, and may disappear. If you know of any others,
please email them to us at complaints@centergate.com :slight_smile:

We're still building the tools section.
We're still building the software section, and the calculator section.
We'll be providing a searchable rfc mirror.
We'll be adding a wrapped aggis interface.

If anyone has any additional suggestions for features, please let us
know. Really.

Finally, we designed it so that it should work with all the browsers,
and Lynx. Text only if you want. Minimal colors. 640 x 480. No
java/active x. No cookies. And no logging unless people start abusing
it.

Enjoy it, and feel free to volunteer additions.

*Please remember*... this is an early work in progress. If you don't
like it, ignore it. Don't bitch.

/rlj

Darin Divinia wrote:

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There are also TLDs without online whois registries, which is stupid IMHO.

-Dan

9

There's one available at http://www.normos.org/ as well.

wfms