Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
Joshua Moore
Network Engineer
ATC Broadband
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As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent
packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version.
I think this is what you're asking for:
http://projects.arin.net/rwhois
Should be a ./configure && make && make install #per this
http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/docs/installation.html
Josh Luthman
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I'd recommend you use the official RWHOIS project from ARIN.
http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/
It will run after compilation on Debian.
Christopher Dye
Paragon Solutions Group, Inc.
I'm looking more for specific use case examples from the real world. How do you interact with the RWHOIS? Do you use RWHOIS or Email SWIP or RESTful?
Joshua Moore
Network Engineer
ATC Broadband
912.632.3161 - O | 912.218.3720 - M
We ran it for a while, then gave up and just updated the info on Arin.
Few years back I wrote an RWHOIS daemon for HE and because of that got put
in touch with Mark Kosters, one of the RWHOIS RFC authors. Without mincing
words he basically told me RWHOIS was dead. Honestly, unless you have a
specific reason to use RWHOIS (privatizing records as allowed by ARIN
policy) your best bet is to programmatically update the info on ARIN using
their API. I wouldn't even both emailing SWIP updates if you want to go the
route of automatic updates since I would guess that system will be retired
in favor of the RESTful API.
Jeff Walter
If you know anyone with some basic coding experience.
Check this out.
https://www.npmjs.com/package/rwhois
It works far easier than the ARIN provided daemons and we have been
successful using it with ARIN.
Thanks
I concur ...
Mark told me the same at the ARIN/NANOG OTR in San Diego last year.
The RESTful API is the way to go.
On 7/8/15, 5:12 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Jeff Walter"
And let ARIN know while you're at it.
Ive heard similar ideas from them but have heard no path of upgrade on
justification.
Not sure why they should care.
As long as proper info about the assignee are provided, who cares if the
info comes from ARIN's or your whois server?
It is most certainly NOT dead. It is, and always has been, a very small userbase. SWIP has always been a pain in the ass. Modern web-ized methods are more acceptable, but still an ugly mess. But, that said, so are all the (r)whois implementations.
In eons long past, I ran an rwhois server. It was almost infinitely easier to convert our address management database (text file) into rwhois zone data. And since the only reason to do any of this crap was for address requests -- once or twice a year, the reduction in man hours dealing with SWIP was greatly rewarded.
On 7/8/15, 7:05 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Ricky Beam"
he basically told me RWHOIS was dead
It is most certainly NOT dead. It is, and always has been, a very small
userbase. SWIP has always been a pain in the ass. Modern web-ized methodsare more acceptable, but still an ugly mess. But, that said, so are all
the (r)whois implementations.In eons long past, I ran an rwhois server. It was almost infinitely
easier
to convert our address management database (text file) into rwhois zone
data. And since the only reason to do any of this crap was for address
requests -- once or twice a year, the reduction in man hours dealing withSWIP was greatly rewarded.
³Dead² is probably not the right word. Perhaps ³obsolete² is better.
Do people still use it? Yes.
I installed and ran it in the early aughts when that was ARIN¹s
requirement for requesting IP blocks when we outgrew those given to us by
UUnet.
It was a giant pain in the butt importing all of our data into it, but we
did, down to the customer /29s, and I patiently waited for ARIN to query
it to meet our obligations.
Finally, one day, I saw a query. One query. (One ping only.) And it
worked, and we got our /19.
So is rwhois dead? Perhaps not. Is it something I would invest any time or
effort into? No.