Creating exchanges [Was: Re: MAE-East - 30%]

This is also the reason why we [collectively] are encouraging the
creation of local exchange points outside of North America. The
situation where two providers in The Phillipines (for example)
have to back-haul traffic to the US to exchange bits is contributing
to the overall problem. This needs to be fixed, but it certainly
won't happen overnight, primarily due to the economic situation
in the general locale. The possibility to correct this problem
increases as deregulation happens.

- paul

This is also the reason why we [collectively] are encouraging the
creation of local exchange points outside of North America. The
situation where two providers in The Phillipines (for example)
have to back-haul traffic to the US to exchange bits is contributing
to the overall problem.

  A very logical place for a CIX-like open interconnect in the
Asia/Pacific region is Guam, because large quantities of fiber (including most
of the fiber to/from North America) transits Guam. At least one ISP (UUnet)
has an operational site on Guam shown on their currently online network map,
no doubt because they have clue about where the fibre runs.

This needs to be fixed, but it certainly
won't happen overnight, primarily due to the economic situation
in the general locale. The possibility to correct this problem
increases as deregulation happens.

  This is another reason to use Guam for an interconnect. Guam is part
of the USA and so telecommunications is already deregulated. (A side benefit
for US citizens living on Guam is that Guam is the only place in the universe
where one's income is not subject to US Federal Income Tax, go figure :-).

  Btw, Singapore shares the "lots of fibre" property, but has
significantly more regulation of telecommunications (and ISPs) than Guam does.

Ran
rja@cisco.com

Hello Fellow Electronic Colleagues:

      <looking around a room> Can anyone say Hawaii? :slight_smile:

Best,
Robert Mathews.
ICICX.

This is what we need from NANOG. More interconnects around the US. And
maybe there should be a WNOG (world) :slight_smile: To help get things running around the
world. I recieved an email from a company in Switzerland and they say they are
paying about 1,000,000 ($US) for their 'two' T1s to the internet per year. If
there are more open exchange points, less hops to get somewhere, the net might
become nicer. (no I don't mean using ATM to make it look like less hops.)

Christian

We look forward to doing our part in such an effort...

Best,
Robert.
ICICX.

I thought residents of Puerto Rico paid no U.S. FIT

A very logical place for a CIX-like open interconnect in the
   Asia/Pacific region is Guam, because large quantities of fiber
   (including most of the fiber to/from North America) transits Guam. At
   least one ISP (UUnet) has an operational site on Guam shown on their
   currently online network map, no doubt because they have clue about
   where the fibre runs.

Actually, almost all of that fiber comes up on one side of the island,
through the repeater hut, and then goes back down into the sea. As of
three years ago when I was actively researching the possibilities for
this kind of thing (and setting up IIKK, now PSInet Japan in Tokyo),
there was almost no bandwidth groomed out of the trans-pac or regional
cables as they went through Guam. If things have changed since then
I'd be interestied to know; as it greatly affects whether Guam is a
"logical" place to put an AP-CIX. 'Course, if everyone who joins
decides to run a full OC12 or OC48 or whatever they run on a single
strand of glass in one of those cables to the island, there wouldn't
be any need for grooming out bandwidth out there?

                                        ---Rob

Correct, they do not, we pay it for them. :slight_smile:

Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Tracking the future today!