Co-locate weather conditions (Re: MAE NY?)

davediaz@netrail.NET (David Diaz) writes:

This was all good with the exception of temp for condensation.
Condensation can occur at just about any temp (within reason) that is what
Dew Point is. Humidity is Dew point/(room) Temperature. When they match
you have humidity of 100% and start to see condensation/fog. Anyway this
is from flight school. I have heard different engineers recommend 40%
humidity and maybe 67.5 degrees temp. Something about enough humidity to
avoid static dischargies etc...??

Normally people pay consultants a lot of money to go look this stuff
up in libraries :slight_smile:

You are correct, it is actually a XY curve plotted with both relative
humidity and temperature. Condensation/fog is not good for a co-locate
space. In addition to electrostatic discharge other issues include
corrosion, fungial growth, affect on the other material stored in the
area, and of course comfort for the human occupants. Go to far in any
direction, and you'll have problems. You are looking for the sweet spot.
The problem for a co-locate operator is there isn't one, but several
depending how the occupants decide to use the space. Further, what
is 'acceptable' may vary depending whether you are the one paying the
utility bill, or if someone else is paying it.

  cigars 70f/70% R.H.
  wine 56f/>20% R.H.
  mag tapes 63f/25% R.H. (> 10yr storage)
  mag tapes 70f/40% R.H. (< 5yr operating)
  museum objects 70f/50% R.H.
  photographs 68f/35% R.H.
  color photos 40f/35% R.H.
  books/paper 70f/35% R.H.
  "clean rooms" 72f/50% R.H.

You'll notice I didn't list 'co-locate space'. If you do some research
you will find the 'optimum' settings are always one study away from
changing. As researchers discover new and inventive ways for Murphy
to attack, they also discover the previous settings sometimes created
the perfect petri dish for problems to grow. People get very religious
about the 'correct' environment. And we haven't gotten into things
such as filtration for dust, smoke, gases, pollutants. Or other issues
like electromagnetic interference, vibration, lighting, acoustic noise,
sesimic stability, floor loading, fire prevention and resistance, etc.

Government and technical sites of interest
  Magnetic media storage
  Books, paper, photographs
  General storage
  Electrostatic discharge

Cell phones. How many people here have used a cell in a colocate where
the use of cell phones is forbidden?

I've had good luck w/ digital pcs cell signal in colocate space.
Luckily none of our colocate people have had an issue with cell phones
(at this point). It is a "Good Thing" (tm) to have an analog
line at your POP anyways for your Out of Band managment anyways..
everyone has one of those, right? :wink:

  - jared

Electromagnetic interference in both directions. I'm deaf in my left ear,
and wear (well, it's in the shop) a pair of hearing aid lookalikes.
Actually, the left aid is a microphone and RF transmitter, that sends to a
receiver in the right ear where the left-side sounds are mixed with the

I can't wear them in many circumstances because I have "special hearing"
that gets overwhelmed. Get me within 5 feet of a Wyse terminal and I hear
nothing but squeals. Going into an equipment room, and I might as well turn
the aid off. Wonder if any other medical equipment is likely to be
affected in a colo?

My main regret is I haven't had an opportunity to visit NSA since I got the
hearing aids. I want to see how they will cope with a visitor with an
unauthorized transmitter in his head.