Cisco as Big Brother (Was Re: Cisco's AIP vs HSSI)

  I like cisco too, but I'd really prefer that Bay, 3Com, or Netstar
  were on par w/ cisco and forced them to do things better. As it
  is, they seem to stagnate from lack of competition...

Yes. This is key.

Give me something with a command line interface; as many options for
controlling OSPF and BGP; completely interoperable OSPF and BGP w/
Ciscos, using the same algorithms for route selection; and I'll consider
it and perhaps buy some.

It's a catch-22, but few (esp. large) providers have the engineering time
to set up a separate backbone and slow-migrate customers over to another
backbone based on different routers/router technology (hi, Curtis). As
a result, they stay locked in to Ciscos - with their admitted and perceived
problems.

  -alan

Avi

  > I like cisco too, but I'd really prefer that Bay, 3Com, or Netstar
  > were on par w/ cisco and forced them to do things better. As it
  > is, they seem to stagnate from lack of competition...

  Yes. This is key.

  Give me something with a command line interface; as many options for
  controlling OSPF and BGP; completely interoperable OSPF and BGP w/
  Ciscos, using the same algorithms for route selection; and I'll consider
  it and perhaps buy some.

And moreover, add there a lot of people familiar with this routers
over the whole world.

I know somebody there who works with BAY, they hate this routers.