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Here goes a link fo an excellent analysis of IPv6 and Playstation

This says a lot about why some prefer DualStack.

https://toreanderson.github.io/2021/02/23/ipv6-support-in-the-playstation-5.html

Hi Douglas,

In a different mailing list, we had a discussion with Tore about his testing and other testing that may not be available in that blog. It was basically about 464XLAT.

As you know IPv6-only with IPv4aaS, provides dual-stack in the customer LANs, where the PS5 was sitting.

So, we concluded in that discussion that there is no difference for the PS5 being used with 464XLAT vs “regular dual-stack”, as expected.

Further to that, I’ve done a very complete testing, for a customer, with a PS4 in a LAN with 464XLAT and everything worked fine. Unfortunately, as this was contracted by a customer, I can’t disclose all the test set, but believe me it worked. It is a deployment with 25.000.000 customers, using GPON, DSL and cellular.

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

Here goes a link fo an excellent analysis of IPv6 and Playstation

This says a lot about why some prefer DualStack.

https://toreanderson.github.io/2021/02/23/ipv6-support-in-the-playstation-5.html

Jordi, If I sum the numbers of times “It is a deployment with 25.000.000 customers, using GPON, DSL and cellular.” (or similar)(EN, ES, PT) appears on my mail box, I guess will be over 2 hundred…

But every time it hits on:
-> Support Tickets! What do they tell us?
-> Field Support and L1 Support Guys. Do they agree with that?

Let me be clear:

  • I like IPv6!
  • I encourage the use of IPv6!
  • I think those guys that say “IPv6 won’t be adopted” a bunch of lunatics!

But, more important than IPv4, IPv6, “IPv12” is that my customers become happy and D’ONT BOTHER ME.
If I would use IPX/SPX and get them even happier than they are today, I would do!

The important message on Tore’s post IS NOT “464XLAT is better then Dual Stack”.
The important message on Tore’s post IS NOT “Sony and Playstation are doing IPv6 in the wrong way!”.

Could you please help every ISP, Every Gamer, demanding Sony and Playstation to do IPv6 the right way, without wanting to “seize the occasion” to publicize the IPv6 transition case and consultancy service?
Please?

The important message on Tore’s post IS ALL ABOUT “Sony and Playstation are doing IPv6 in the wrong way!”.

Jordi, one of these days, you are going to have to tell us if this is real :-). Mark.

Refusing to configure an IPv6 address because there is no IPv6 DNS resolver included in the SLAAC or DHCPv6 messages is very, very broken.

Mark.

I wish I could do it already! As soon as the client starts the massive deployment, it should be announced. Covid delayed it at least for 1 year up to now …

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

In the pilot we have got, up to now, 0 support tickets related to 464XLAT, just normal ones.

I think Cameron already told, if I’m not confused, they didn’t get support tickets, and they are doing 464XLAT in cellular and broadband for many years with hundreds of millions of customers.

I don’t understand what you mean with the support folks, they just do what their boss decides, like in any other technology deployment.

Of course I agree that Sony PS is not doing well, but they have been doing so bad for ages already (compared with Microsoft, Google, etc., etc.), unfortunately they don’t go to events or respond to emails to help them. If someone has a better contact, will be happy to help!

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

Jordi, If I sum the numbers of times “It is a deployment with 25.000.000 customers, using GPON, DSL and cellular.” (or similar)(EN, ES, PT) appears on my mail box, I guess will be over 2 hundred…

But every time it hits on:
-> Support Tickets! What do they tell us?
-> Field Support and L1 Support Guys. Do they agree with that?

Let me be clear:

  • I like IPv6!
  • I encourage the use of IPv6!
  • I think those guys that say “IPv6 won’t be adopted” a bunch of lunatics!

But, more important than IPv4, IPv6, “IPv12” is that my customers become happy and D’ONT BOTHER ME.
If I would use IPX/SPX and get them even happier than they are today, I would do!

The important message on Tore’s post IS NOT “464XLAT is better then Dual Stack”.
The important message on Tore’s post IS NOT “Sony and Playstation are doing IPv6 in the wrong way!”.

Could you please help every ISP, Every Gamer, demanding Sony and Playstation to do IPv6 the right way, without wanting to “seize the occasion” to publicize the IPv6 transition case and consultancy service?
Please?

Well, Jordi… Do You know what is the important Body Part?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2vgpzs/the_most_important_body_part/
:joy::sweat_smile:

To me(and all that I know in ISP industries, including the very small and the big ones) according to what is explained on the link above, if the ISP would be a human body, the support would be equivalent to the rectum.