Would anyone have information or knowledge of books, WWW Sites, or other
means that would provide details on constructing a state of the art NOC to
support 75000+ nodes in a LAN/MAN/WAN environmentThanks in advance
JC
No books, it's all experience.
Martin Hannigan V:617.500.0108
Director - Data Networks F:617.500.0002
XCOM Technologies, INC. hannigan@xcom.net
Cambridge, MA http://www.xcom.net
I think I'd disagree with that. Where would all you folks be if you never
picked up a book? You wouldn't be reading this list. Seriously, while
there's not an ORA "How to Build a NOC" book with some cute animal on the
cover, there is some information out there worth reading.
I'd suggest digging through some telco info (if you'd like to consider a
CO a NOC). Also, there should be plenty of people on this list that
work in or have even designed decent sized NOCs. You can also cheat and
go browsing as a prospective customer at someplace like Exodus or any
other colo facility that is well-managed and modern. You can actually
learn quite a bit by just looking around...
Hopefully some of the startup NSPs will answer here, as the experience
should still be fresh in their minds...
Charles
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spork@inch.com access@inch.com
Or you could bypass all that, fork over a little money and hire a
consultant that has done it many times, to come in and tell ya exactly how
to do everything. Then you will not have to learn the hard-way of trial and
error. Since we are talking about a 75,000 node network, I don't think too
many errors would be looked very highly upon...
Luke
1-800-789-6062 x3010
I think I'd disagree with that. Where would all you folks be if you never
picked up a book? You wouldn't be reading this list. Seriously, while
there's not an ORA "How to Build a NOC" book with some cute animal on the
cover, there is some information out there worth reading.I'd suggest digging through some telco info (if you'd like to consider a
CO a NOC). Also, there should be plenty of people on this list that
work in or have even designed decent sized NOCs. You can also cheat and
go browsing as a prospective customer at someplace like Exodus or any
other colo facility that is well-managed and modern. You can actually
learn quite a bit by just looking around...Hopefully some of the startup NSPs will answer here, as the experience
should still be fresh in their minds...Charles
~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
Charles Sprickman Internet Channel
INCH System Administration Team (212)243-5200
spork@inch.com access@inch.comDate: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:14:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan@xcom.net>
To: John_W_Connors@res.raytheon.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Building a NOC>
> Would anyone have information or knowledge of books, WWW Sites, or other
> means that would provide details on constructing a state of the art
NOC to
> support 75000+ nodes in a LAN/MAN/WAN environment
>
> Thanks in advance
> JC
>
>
>No books, it's all experience.
Martin Hannigan V:617.500.0108
Director - Data Networks F:617.500.0002
XCOM Technologies, INC. hannigan@xcom.net
Cambridge, MA http://www.xcom.net
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Correct. There are people who build NOC's for a living. You dont want to
know all the details of generators, floors, AC, power loads, BTU's, heat
exhaust, etc.. all of which has to be negotiated according to local county
and state rules and regs, building owner regs -- its a massive undertaking
to do it right, there are people who do soley this and are good at it.
Stb
S.T.Balbach wrote:
Correct. There are people who build NOC's for a living. You dont want to
know all the details of generators, floors, AC, power loads, BTU's, heat
exhaust, etc.. all of which has to be negotiated according to local county
and state rules and regs, building owner regs -- its a massive undertaking
to do it right, there are people who do soley this and are good at it.
Anyone care to chime in as 'an expert'?
I'd love to talk to a NOCMeister about building one.
Cheers,
Scott Kozicki
BlueStar Communications
I have built 8 colos so far with 10 - 200 racks and 2 NOCs. I have done
everything from design all of the systems to actually laying block. There
is WAY to much that goes into building a colo to talk about this on this
list. If you want more info send me some email and I may be able to help
you out.
P.S. Not all of my colo centers were airplane proof as one person at
NANOG kindly noted. 
And beer...
and Pizza
Moe