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For all their protesting to the contrary, it appears that AGIS is signing
up more new spammers and taking no apparent action upon reports sent to
them (incl. Lawler) about spamming activity. So much for Lawler's
rhetoric.
-James D. Wilson
netsurf@pixi.com
I am sorry if someone else from AGIS has already responded on this, but I
will take a moment to clear his up.
This is completely incorrect. AGIS' AUP can be found at www.agis.net. We
are vigorously enforcing our AUP. AGIS will not sell connectivity to UCE
businesses, and have not for some time. We investigate all complaints
about AGIS' customers that are sent to abuse@agis.net. Spammers have been
terminated, and will continue to be as long as I run this company.
Thank you,
Phil Lawlor
President
AGIS
Voice - 313-730-1130
Fax - 313-563-6119
I don't know if they still do, but AGIS used to just setup sendmail.cf
filters to block mail from sites or individuals complaining about spam
houses hooked up to AGIS.
To the best of my knowledge, we only blocked mailbombers. Someone here
from AGIS can correct me if I am wrong.
Phil Lawlor
President
AGIS
Voice - 313-730-1130
Fax - 313-563-6119
It might help your case if y'all were to make this information
public somewhere, perhaps on a web page. A possible format
would be 'Customer name | Type of abuse | Date first complaint
received | # of complaints | Termination date.'
Jon,
We used to have filters set up to block out individuals who sent excessive
amounts of mail which threatened to fill up the hard drives on our mail
server. However, since the termination of our larger bulk emailers, we
have less anti-spam coming in and fewer complaints overall concerning our
remaining bulk emailers. (Plus, we do still get complaints about some
ex-customers who use dialup accounts through other providers and other bulk
emailers not on the AGIS backbone.) We have removed all filters except for
one or two die-hard "forward all spam to AGIS with 10 copies to each
employee and internal mailing list" sites.
Jim
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James K. Hood (James@AGIS.NET) URL: http://www.agis.net
DNS and Systems Administrator Corp.: 313-730-1130
for Apex Global Internet Services FAX: 313-730-9886
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This information is publicly available. See http://www.agis.net and click
on the little "aup" graphic and follow the links. 
If any of you are interested, we will consider posting the list of
violations every time there is a change.
Jim
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James K. Hood (James@AGIS.NET) URL: http://www.agis.net
DNS and Systems Administrator Corp.: 313-730-1130
for Apex Global Internet Services FAX: 313-730-9886
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Didn't Phil just say you guys were cutting off all the bulk mailers, or
are there ways to spam through AGIS leased lines without violating the AUP
(which I've not yet read)?
Yo Phil!
Yo James!
AGIS has not knowingly signed up any new spammers. Our sales people now
qualify new sales as *not* being spammers. We only have to worry about
existing customers becoming spammers, and new customers lying about there
business before we hook them up. If somebody is somehow able to send bulk
email (not spam) without complaints (i.e. opt-in, etc.), then they can
email all they want. If we receive complaints at abuse@agis.net, then we
take appropriate action.
Phil Lawlor
President
AGIS
Voice - 313-730-1130
Fax - 313-563-6119
James has gone home. The answer is no.
That's what strict contracts are for.
Dear Mr. Lawlor,
Please see below.
Wayne D. Correia
DomainNET
ps: I would show you the traceroute going into your network, but one of our
transit providers, Above.net, has already blackholed them.
To my knowledge, there is no filter concerning abuse.net on our mail server.
I've had some entirely civil e-mail exchanges with Phil Lawlor and Adam
Hersh recently. It's true, they're no longer filtering stuff from here.
If only they would get rid of Savoynet, which sends a blast of about
90 spams in a row to invalid addresses here every day (broken web
scraper, evidently) I would be much more impressed by their new
anti-spam policies.
See http://www.abuse.net/AGIS-report.html to see what AGIS customers
have sent here lately. This page just logs spam sent to addresses in
my private domains like iecc.com, gurus.com, and services.net, not
anything forwarded by other people via abuse.net. Considering that I
only have a dozen users, all friends of mine, it's an awful lot of
spam.
Regards,
John Levine, postmaster@abuse.net, http://www.abuse.net, Trumansburg NY
abuse.net postmaster
This was originally reported to you and your abuse line privately, with no
response from either. That was consistent with AGIS response in the past
which did not result in any action or acknowledgement taking place. It's
hard to tell if anything has changed if you don't acknowledge the report
even if only by autoreply.
You lie. You blocked me. I have never in my life sent a mailbomb.
Oh, I sent lots of complaints to AGIS, but every complaint was in response
to spam that somebody associated with AGIS had sent me, every complaint
required me to do a significant amount of research, and no incoming
spam resulted in more than one complaint. Such complaints are not
mailbombs.
--apb (Alan Barrett)
> To the best of my knowledge, we only blocked mailbombers. Someone here
> from AGIS can correct me if I am wrong.You lie. You blocked me. I have never in my life sent a mailbomb.
Oh, I sent lots of complaints to AGIS, but every complaint was in response
to spam that somebody associated with AGIS had sent me, every complaint
required me to do a significant amount of research, and no incoming
spam resulted in more than one complaint. Such complaints are not
mailbombs.--apb (Alan Barrett)
That's all right. They blocked me too, for the same thing (one complaint
per spam).
From where I sit that's nothing new, but its also ok - we reciprocated, and
blocked a huge number of AGIS-distributed networks (basically anything that
a spammer was connected to). Guess what? Spam volume went WAY down.
Heh, a few legitimate customers might have been inconvenienced, but when
abuse@[owner-of-network] bounces with a "access denied", that's all you have
left.