Is it possible to get the list of sites included in this feed. Paul Vixie
used to publish these site on his web site, but the "Rogue" sites area has
been taken down. Apparently a large number of list "memebers" threaten
legal action. They alleged some used this list as a list of targets for
http://spam.abuse.net/ is hosted on a vixie machine but not edited by any
vixie people. scott hazen mueller, a former employee here, is in charge
of that page. i have no editorial input at all other than as an individual
contributor. in other details, the above paragraph is factually correct.
We were freuquent reviewers of the list. We used the information there to
update our sendmail filters. We were very dissapointed to see it go.
The only trouble I have with Paul's list was it occasionally needed fine
tuning by hand. Some sites had to be permitted, even though they may have
been guilty of UCE. On one occasion, they had an ISP on their list. This
ISP was close enough to us in geographic region that it was reasonable to
expect some of our users were emailing users on their system. We could not
therefore black hole them.
thank you for that explaination. the black hole list is not for everybody,
though i believe that with the "fine tuning" you described, it can be of use
to anybody who wants to do more work and get less spam.
It would seem to me that this would be more serious if this were an
automatic feed, sent directly to our routers. There would be no way to
review the sites on the list before they were blocked.
Perhaps Paul would create a mailing list for network operators interested
in receiving his blackhole list. As new updates to the group were made,
they could be sent to the list. So as not to appear as though we are
looking for something for nothing, we would be willing to donate resources
to run the list.
because of my cease-and-desist problem, and my very real worries about
"conspiracy in restraint of trade", i will not make the list available
other than through a protocol like BGP/TCP which allows me to revoke an
entry from the list in real time and without anyone else's participation.