Hello,
A gentle reminder to those of you who use autoresponders when you go on
vacation - are out of the office - go to the men's/ladies room etc.
DON'T subscribe to NANOG and other lists from these accounts.
Having just been bombarded by a bunch of "I'm out of the office on
Vacation until January 5th - In case of emergency..." type messages
after my prior message, I can tell you it's irritating as hell, and
pretty rude.
/rlj
) A gentle reminder to those of you who use autoresponders when you go on
) vacation - are out of the office - go to the men's/ladies room etc.
)
) DON'T subscribe to NANOG and other lists from these accounts.
)
) Having just been bombarded by a bunch of "I'm out of the office on
) Vacation until January 5th - In case of emergency..." type messages
) after my prior message, I can tell you it's irritating as hell, and
) pretty rude.
Actually, this mailing list neither adds in a "Mailing-List: ..." header
nor a "Precedence: bulk" header, which are the two easiest ways to spot a
modern mailing list. I'd suggest you complain to the mailing list
managers, not the poor people whose [most likely] properly configured
autoresponders aren't being given the information they should be given.
Also, it seems to use sendmail for its deliveries. This makes it take
10-20 minutes before email reaches me (sometimes more). I wish they would
use qmail instead (for instance). Dont know if they use majordomo but I
have successfully made majordomo use qmail-inject and use qmail for
outgoing list-mail whilst still using sendmail for incoming email (for
flexibility with aliases etc. Makes the transition much easier.
from the headers...<may be a new addition>
Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Precedence: bulk
/rf
It is, so I think this thread can now safely die. 
D
Its new as of 12/23. Thanks! (to whomever added it).
The NANOG list has been running with sendmail, majordomo and bulk_mailer
on a long-suffering SPARC 5. This is the reason for both the lag time
and the lack of Precedence: header (bulk_mailer strips it out by
default; I don't know if running it thus was a policy decision or simply
an oversight). On and off for the last few days I've been using you all
as guinea pigs in my evaluation of Postfix on an Ultra 5, and so far it
looks promising. Delivery times are down quite a bit. To use you as an
example, Mikael, the current setup took between 9 and 14 minutes to make
deliveries to you yesterday. Routing the list traffic through Postfix on
the faster machine dropped that to 60-100 seconds. And as several people
have noted, the Precedence: header is preserved.
It's a little early yet to make a wholesale switch to the new system,
but I'm hoping to do so in January. If nothing else we'll be on the
better hardware. Bear with us a little longer.
Actually, this mailing list neither adds in a "Mailing-List: ..." header
nor a "Precedence: bulk" header, which are the two easiest ways to spot a
modern mailing list.
i missed the rfc on this. ref please.
barring that, i just forward the garbage to the list admin and the sub is
deleted. bleedin' idiots.
randy