ATM (was Re: too many routes)

Sean M. Doran wrote:

BTW, your formatting sucks to the point that your note is
unreadable and unquotable without fmt(1) or fill-paragraph.

Sorry, bad program to send from ;{

So anyway, as I was saying, I'm ignorant about such matters.

Cute. :wink: Its nice to know you have a sense of humor !

Oh now THERE's a reliable source. "Hi my name is Frank
and ATM will Just Work. Hi my name is Warren and ATM is
fantastic.". Ugh. (kent bait kent bait kent bait)

Not my point, I was just quoting my "source" of timings, nothing more.

At higher bandwidths bits are shorter not faster.

  Yes, but at lower bandwidth they are spaced further apart.

Repeat that several times.

  Yes, do.

Whether you are signalling at 300bps or at
293875983758917538924372589bps, the start of the first bit
arrives at the same time.

I was talking about a total performance increased experienced by more
bandwidth, not *just* latency.
BTW the total transmission time is still reduced, my original point. I
was careful to note the resultant transmission time, not latency.

Also, if the cell entered the net to carry the "first bit" before it's
natural TAT......

Um, no it doesn't. As with all demand-cached forwarding
schemes you have to process a packet heavily when you have
a cache miss.

You are right. I was not accurate on full implementation detail, but
the concept was there. I *really* must remember *not* to use
simplifications for brevity in the nanog list. But, the description was
not intended as an RFC. I was only noting the advantage to not needing
to look up where to send a packet , * every time *.

MPLS is conceptually related, btw.

   Interesting. PS. I am a supporter.

P.S.: You have some very entertaining and unique expansion
     of a number of acronyms in general and relating to
       ATM in particular. I'm curious how you expand "PDH".
       Personally I favour "Pretty Damn Historical",
       although other epithets come to mind.

   I repeat, I will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, over simplify for brevity to
the nanog again.
Bad Richard, Bad! (But each one gave you the general idea, didn't it.)

  I rather liked your response(s), it was informative. I still hold to
my point, though.

Now rather than fire a response to all those flames, one at a time....

To One individual:

  Yes, I used some terms from Frame Relay, instead of ATM. (OOPs! I work
with all the above, and it was the end of a 10 hour day) And yes, the
acronyms are in error in literal expansion, however, not in concept.
They perform the same BASIC function.

A) Yes it is !
B) Your hair is died !!

Is that "has died" or "is dyed"?
There is a big difference between Pretty Dead Hair and Pretty Dyed Hair
sometimes referred to as PDH... :slight_smile:

Wasn't this on Monty Python ?

I think that was a dead parrot actually...