Announcing a /19 from a /16

Hi-

I'm working on a project within a large corporation and asked their network
folks about getting a /19 from one of their /16s. I wanted it to avoid NAT
and any possible overlapping from using RFC1918 addresses. This project
gets connected to the internet at different times throughout the year at
different locations through different ISPs. I would announce the /19 for a
short period of time, maybe a month or so.

The response I got back was that this was impossible since ISPs require an
announcement of the /16 the /19 would come from. I have done work with ISPs
before (and have read the NANOG list for many years) but haven't heard of
such a requirement nor can I find any standards that indicate the same
thing.

Does anyone have requirements of a /19 announcement requires the /16 to be
there as well? The company has plenty of /16s that it uses internally that
are not being announced on the Internet at all.

Thanks-

-Eric

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Objet : Announcing a /19 from a /16

Hi-

I'm working on a project within a large corporation and asked
their network folks about getting a /19 from one of their
/16s. I wanted it to avoid NAT and any possible overlapping
from using RFC1918 addresses. This project gets connected to
the internet at different times throughout the year at
different locations through different ISPs. I would announce
the /19 for a short period of time, maybe a month or so.

The response I got back was that this was impossible since
ISPs require an announcement of the /16 the /19 would come
from.

Maybe one of the (fairly rare, from what I see) actors that ingress filter
(or takes into account those small few that does) by allocation? (What
prefixes are yopu talking about?)

mh

The response I got back was that this was impossible since ISPs require an
announcement of the /16 the /19 would come from. I have done work with ISPs
before (and have read the NANOG list for many years) but haven't heard of
such a requirement nor can I find any standards that indicate the same
thing.

Does anyone have requirements of a /19 announcement requires the /16 to be
there as well? The company has plenty of /16s that it uses internally that
are not being announced on the Internet at all.

The /19 is big enough to not get filtered by the majority. I don't know of any
specific "rules" or "do's and don'ts" that prevents you from announcing such a
space as long as you have a) permission from the /16 administrator (which you
claim to have), b) non-private-AS number announcing it and perhaps c) register
it in a popular IRR database (i.e. ALTDB, RADB).

BGP advertisement really isn't a rocket science. What you announce and what the
majority accepts is what the internet sees.

-J