Airplane crashing into Atlanta-NAP

Sounds like you are not a pilot. A plane could, and if it did, I suspect
they might very well force all power to be turned off and evacuate the

I am not a pilot, but I have been a hazmat tech/fire fighter/paramedic.
And let me tell you, between CO2 foam, water, and any of the other things
they could use to keep a building from going up in that sort of
situation, I would be very surprised if even the equipment would stay on
much less talk to other pieces of equipment.

I can't say I have tried running a Cisco 7513 from the bottom of a pool,
but I don't think it is rated for an operational 100% humidity. :slight_smile:

I know it was a joke, but thought I'd throw my $0.02 in.


Hmm, actually I am working to get a license, and I don't think it would be
possible. The space between the buildings is only about 8 ft. If power was
turned off that would not be a problem. We have generator, and UPS systems
with manual wraparound if say the transfer switch dies.

Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Tracking the future today!

The only joke here is that some people think that the Internet exchange in
a city the size and importance of Atlanta can be adequately housed on the
5th story of an office building.

I could understand it if Atlanta had 20 or 30 exchange points, but when
there is only one exchange the city deserves better than a mickey-mouse
5th floor operation.

Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting
Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 - E-mail:

Ok, maybe I'm a dullard, but how exactly does the exchange's distance from
the ground affect it's useability and/or value to the community? Do
electrons travel faster when closer to the ground? Does the speed of light
increase? No wonder my 386 on the 11th floor is so slow.

Maybe you think they should have leased or purchased a stand-alone
facility. Doing so would likely increase the costs passed on to anyone
interested in the exchange, and make it less viable for diverse
participation from smaller providers with not-so-deep pockets, and from
the majors, as they would also be less likely to show if the costs for the
exchange were not reasonably low. After all, they can peer privately for
much less than it will cost them to peer via a public exchange.

Oh and, 20 or 30 exchange points don't make sense in _any_ city.

I honestly don't understand your reasoning. Funny, it's not the first

And, I don't see you stepping up with capitol to finance something other
than what you have deemed a "mickey-mouse operation". The very fact that
there is no other exchange there (wasn't MAE-South supposed to be in
Atlanta?) makes it even more important that NetRail not spend too much
money on what hasn't proven to be a necessary service and is not
guarunteed to be cost-recoverable.

I believe Nathan and Netrail should be applauded for their attempt to fill
a void, with what sounds like it's going to be a facility with
accomodations on-par with and/or better than any of the other exchanges
available today. You and your un-based, non-constructive comments are
doing nothing to help the network community move towards the scaleable
Internet that you preach for so vehemently.

Why not? the Atlanta NAP has 4 times as much space as MAE-East. We are not
a mickey-mouse operation. We started with backup everything, and with more
hardware then any of MFS NAPs have started with. We started our NAP with
gigaswitch, generator, dual fiber entrances, backup power feeds, and more.
Most NAPs don't start with this stuff they grow into it. Please don't slam
the Atlanta-NAP until you have check us and a few other NAPs out. I think
you will see that we are not a mickey-mouse operation.

P.S. Have you check out what MAE-Atlanta is starting out with? They have
less space then us, will not be up for 6 - 8 more months, will not have a
UPS, and will only start with a catlyst.

If anyone is interested in setting up an alternative Atlanta NAP, I have
a very spacious first-floor apartment which I am more than happy to
volunteer to the effort. It's even somewhat sunk below ground level, and
I think my neighbors wouldn't mind the occassional running of a generator.

I've already got 10MB/s, which puts the Northside-Circle-NAP on par with
MAE-NY, right?

499 Northside Circle
Apt 414
Atlanta, GA

Colo space is $49/month for the kitchen, $69 for the living room. In
light of the objections raised by Mr. Dillon, upstairs space (aka.,
"Todd's Bedroom") is cheaper at $29, and the shower can be yours for a
mere $19.95 per month!

Initial incoming bandwidth is 128k, meaning we're already faster than the
orig. NSF backbone!

Sign up now, space is very limited.

As for geographical diversity, a fellow engineer who lives about a
quarter-mile down the road just said he, too, has free rack space with a
similar setup. However, since his is a second-floor apartment, he's
going to undercut my pricing. Bastard!