a question about the economics of peering

I've set peering policy for at least 2 large ISPs (BTnet
and Level3 (Europe)). Peering is my field of expertise. I'm on the
council of the LINX, which is the biggest peering point in Europe. I've
also got experience of selling internet services in Europe, and to be
frank, the customers over here have different requirements than over in
the US. The first thing you get asked is "how good is your peering".
They then ask you how much private peering you have, despite the fact
that IXPs in Europe tend to be well run and uncongested.

yeah don't talk to me about some of the bozo companies I've had
to talk to about "congestion at the peering points" and how they
can wave their magic wand and make all those problems go away.

What I was offering him was a LAN extension service. One of the things
you can use this for is to peer with other customers. It looks like a
direct peering (so you keep customers happy) and it gets the bits from A
to C without passing through (possibly congested and oversubscribed) B.
Its not an oversubscribed service, so you get effectively private line
performance. And the costing is distance independent, which makes it
more like a peering point, in charging terms.

Sounds like something we looked at a while ago - layer 2 interconnectivity
over IP or MPLS for ISP's - we couldn't make the numbers add up though.

Regards,
Neil.

Neil J. McRae wrote (on Nov 30):

yeah don't talk to me about some of the bozo companies I've had
to talk to about "congestion at the peering points" and how they
can wave their magic wand and make all those problems go away.

A current pitch from a certain newish IXP entrant in London is that
they can save me money off my Transit bill. When vendors get their
facts so blatantly wrong about your company, I seriously consider whether
they're worth doing business with - true it's just the sales droid,
but IXen don't need that many sales droids, I thought...

Sounds like something we looked at a while ago - layer 2 interconnectivity
over IP or MPLS for ISP's - we couldn't make the numbers add up though.

It's something I have considered for backup connectivity, but it never
went anywhere. I'm waiting for Nigel to pitch to me, in case his version
makes sense. :slight_smile:

Chris.