Or that you don't have to use that piece of crap called Configuration Mangler
to deal with the thing and then pay for upgrades to a version of configuration
software that doesn't leave the equipment in a bad state.
[ On Sunday, September 5, 1999 at 09:46:43 (-0400), bandregg@redhat.com wrote: ]
Subject: Re: a different view of SNMP
Or that you don't have to use that piece of crap called Configuration Mangler
to deal with the thing and then pay for upgrades to a version of configuration
software that doesn't leave the equipment in a bad state.
That's what I meant -- there was a wide berth left open for something
that would work (better) and very little stopping anyone from writing it
(save for lack of a significant market, I suppose).
Helo Bryan ,
>>I sometimes wonder why Wellfleet nee Bay nee Nortel haven't already
>>taken over most of Cisco's market share for this reason given their
>>almost total embracement of SNMP for configuration and management.
>>Sure, they did leave a wide market niche for third party font-end tools
>>that actually worked, but at least they embraced the standards!
>Well, could it be because Cisco routers _work_?
Or that you don't have to use that piece of crap called Configuration Mangler
to deal with the thing and then pay for upgrades to a version of configuration
software that doesn't leave the equipment in a bad state.
Now that Nortel is in charge that is the case 'pay pay pay'
When I worked at NWRain.net we had a BLN in use . When it
was put into service the way to get SMxxx was to just ftp
to their site & grab the latest 'production' version .
If you had a Maint. Contract just call & ask for the lastest
service group patched version ... that of course was before
Nortel started providing 'Improved' services to it customers .
Jusy My ~.03 worth , JimL
It's _not the joke_ - a lot folks here prefere CISCO to WellFleet just
because they dod not need to get GUI program, bring laptop with them and
bother about upgrades. And _npw_ CISCO haveeasy WWW interface as the
GUI-SNMP killer, as well.
Alex.
PS. BUt it's amazing - I thought everyone use the first september weekend
to rest - it appear the people use this day to make a piece
of philosophy -:).
> Or that you don't have to use that piece of crap called Configuration Mangler
> to deal with the thing and then pay for upgrades to a version of configuration
> software that doesn't leave the equipment in a bad state.That's what I meant -- there was a wide berth left open for something
There _WAS_. This berths is closed since embedded HTTP appeared.
that would work (better) and very little stopping anyone from writing it
(save for lack of a significant market, I suppose).--
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