/8s and filtering

Hello,
  Currently APNIC's policy means that if an organization can fully use a
/26 (since 25% of /24=/26 and to satisfy the multihoming requirement the
organization will need to have a prefix advertised by two or more ISPs) it
can get a multihoming assignment from APNIC.

  If Class C /8s are over and ISPs maintain their filtering policies, the
bar would be raised to fully using a /24 instead (since 25% of /22 =
/24 and filtering in Class A is done at /22).

  8 of the 9 APNIC /8s are from the Class C space. Only one is from the
Class A space. However there are only three untouched /8s left in the
Class C space - 197/8, 222/8, 223/8.

  Actually, I wanted to know if the filtering policies will change to
accommodate this - i.e. will /24s be allowed in the Class A space?

  I was also curious about this - if I am a customer who wants to
multihome and can justify only a /24, I would go to an ISP
which has an allocation from the Class C space rather than one from the
Class A space. Do ISPs get to choose where the allocation comes from?

Harsha.

I was also curious about this - if I am a customer who wants to
multihome and can justify only a /24, I would go to an ISP
which has an allocation from the Class C space rather than one from the
Class A space.

  It doesn't matter. For all practical purposes, basement multihomers only
care that their two or three providers have their route.

Do ISPs get to choose where the allocation comes from?

  Ask your ISP if they'll let you choose. But it usually doesn't matter, if
you can only justify a /24, you'll find about the same filtering policies in
both traditional class A space and class C space.

  But again, it doesn't matter. So long as each of your providers will honor
your route (and why wouldn't they, you're paying them to) you shouldn't have
a problem.

  Just pick your most reliable provider, and the one you're pretty sure you're
going to stay with the longest, and get your IP space from them. Make sure
they don't mind you advertising your block through other providers.

  And give some thought to hiring a competent consultant to help you. You can
hire a consultant even if you are the consultant. In fact, no competent
consultant would do otherwise outside his or her area of expertise. Don't
learn to multihome at your client's expense. :wink:

  DS

Here is one reason for some to care :

If you want to do interdomain multicast, and your
address space is not announced globally (say because you have a /24 that is
not from the swamp), you are likely to be black-holed
due to RPF failures (as your unicast and multicast routing is likely to be different).

This has caused problems from time to time...

Regards
Marshall Eubanks

I was also curious about this - if I am a customer who wants to
multihome and can justify only a /24, I would go to an ISP
which has an allocation from the Class C space rather than one from the
Class A space.

  It doesn't matter. For all practical purposes, basement multihomers only
care that their two or three providers have their route.

Do ISPs get to choose where the allocation comes from?

  Ask your ISP if they'll let you choose. But it usually doesn't matter, if
you can only justify a /24, you'll find about the same filtering policies in
both traditional class A space and class C space.

  But again, it doesn't matter. So long as each of your providers will honor
your route (and why wouldn't they, you're paying them to) you shouldn't have
a problem.

  Just pick your most reliable provider, and the one you're pretty sure you're
going to stay with the longest, and get your IP space from them. Make sure
they don't mind you advertising your block through other providers.

  And give some thought to hiring a competent consultant to help you. You can
hire a consultant even if you are the consultant. In fact, no competent
consultant would do otherwise outside his or her area of expertise. Don't
learn to multihome at your client's expense. :wink:

  DS

                                  Regards
                                  Marshall Eubanks

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