we are hearing that 60 hudson has been evacuated and may collapse.
can anyone give confirmation/details?
/rf
What's the source on this?
60 Hudson is almost a full mile from the WTC as the crow flies. I can't
imagine that it is in danger of collapse, although it is in the "no drive
zone" being enforced south of 14th street.
Drew Linsalata
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Unless Mapquest is badly off, 60 Hudson is NW of City Hall... many blocks from the damaged buildings
we are hearing that 60 hudson has been evacuated and may collapse.
can anyone give confirmation/details?
Ticket from Genuity, take it as you will:
Ticket Number: 1223350 Ticket Status: open
Ticket Type: unplanned/network Scope/Source: sites/csc
Ticket Owner: noc/noc Ticket Opener: koneil
Ticket Opened: 09-13-2001 00:15 GMT Problem Started: 09-13-2001 00:15 GMT
Component: nycmny1
Original Description:
60 Hudson Street NYC (nycmny1) has been evacuated and may collapse.
Genuity support staff groups are investigating and preparing back-up plans.
Updates will follow.
Sounds a bit extreme. 60 Hudson is kinda north of the buildings that
collapsed or are suffering from structural damage. I know people who
were there as recently as 6:30pm EST.
All I've been able to find was GENU ticket 1223350 (finger
ticket-1223350@tickets.bbnplanet.com). If this were true, chances are
we'd have heard it from more sources. Of course, I wouldn't rule out
anything...
-adam
Fox News is now reporting that law enforcement is evacuating the area around the Empire State Building - Jack Hanick, a Fox News Channel Director, is on the phone.... he's reporting that people are being evacuated toward the East River.
This, they are saying, is due to a threat against the ESB.
Fox is reporting that NYPD has received a threat agains the building
we are hearing that 60 hudson has been evacuated and may collapse.
can anyone give confirmation/details?
As others have noted, Hudson St. is a long way away.
Reuters says that One Liberty Plaza, which is adjacent to the WTC and
was damaged when the south tower fell, may collapse. Perhaps you
heard a garbled version of that.
BBN updated their ticket :
Their ticket server seems lagged.. maybe we should all stop
fingering it 
***Note #37 09-13-2001 02:22:38 GMT Author: koneil
** CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION **
Due to the continued structural degradation of several buildings near the
site of the World Trade Center tragedy in New York, Genuity has learned that
additional facilities operated by our telephone company vendors are in danger
of collapsing or losing power. Although access to 60 Hudson Street is
prohibited at this time, contrary to previous reports, we have confirmed that
this facility is currently structurally stable. In order to reduce the
potential risk of degraded services or even intermittent outages to our
customers' services, we are continuing to develop contingency plans to help
minimize the impact of these potential issues.
At this point in time, there is no need to implement these plans, however we
will continue to update you with additional information as it becomes
available.
It's about a 10 minute, several block walk from the WTC to
60 Hud. According to the mapping services it's over half a mile
away. I find the liklihood of large debris falling that far away
fairly low. Both 1WTC and 2WTC were just over 1400' tall, which
is approximately a quarter mile. Even if they had both fallen
directly towards 60 Hudson, it might survive. There are also
quite a few buildings in the way that should act as a pretty big
shield.
I think you probably got that from Genuity, which appears
to have retracted it 20 minutes ago. See (or finger) their
ticket 1223350, which states:
"Although access to 60 Hudson Street is prohibited at this
time, contrary to previous reports, we have confirmed that this
facility is currently structurally stable."
--msa
60 Hudson Street NYC (nycmny1) has been evacuated and may collapse.
Well, I *may* be the pope posting from a secret alias.
DS
My dialup provider has sent a message indicating that 60 Hudson may
collapse, but I don't know where they got their information, and they're
not in New York, they are in Palatine, IL.
Fox News is now reporting that law enforcement is evacuating the area
around the Empire State Building - Jack Hanick, a Fox News Channel
Director, is on the phone.... he's reporting that people are being
evacuated toward the East River.
[snip]
Fox is reporting that NYPD has received a threat agains the building
Shortly later, they cancelled the evacuation order. False alarm.
> we are hearing that 60 hudson has been evacuated and may collapse.
>
> can anyone give confirmation/details?It's about a 10 minute, several block walk from the WTC to
60 Hud. According to the mapping services it's over half a mile
away.
Note: 1/2 mile==10 blocks in NYCM, although this is a difficult metric to
apply accurately in the financial district (where many of the streets
predate the "grid system" of blocks known uptown.
I find the liklihood of large debris falling that far away
fairly low.
According to cnn.com, very heavy debris surrounds the WTC for a distance
of more than 10 blocks [closely paraphrased, as I don't feel like
searching for the precise cite right now]. Also according to cnn, the
collapse of each of the towers generated a [mild] 2.0 Richter Scale event.
Knowing the area well, as I do, I also doubt that even heavy debris would
be sufficient at that distance to harm 60H all by itself. a 2.0 even is
pretty mild, but NYCM is generally not what you would call
earthquake-aware either - I doubt 60H was built to any earthquake spec.
"Although access to 60 Hudson Street is prohibited at this
time, contrary to previous reports, we have confirmed that this
facility is currently structurally stable."
I can believe this, no problem. Personally, I would be *much* more
worried about the ventilation systems right now...