Hi -
214/8 and 215/8 seem to have been allocated to the U.S. DoD in ca. 1998.
There does seem to be a few sizeable announcements (which overlap a few
not-so-sizable ones), but I have to wonder if anyone can explain the
grounds on which they were allocated these two /8s, and which body
did the allocation. Anyone?Sean.
I could. Why does it matter?
--bill
bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> Hi -
>
> 214/8 and 215/8 seem to have been allocated to the U.S. DoD in ca. 1998.
> There does seem to be a few sizeable announcements (which overlap a few
> not-so-sizable ones), but I have to wonder if anyone can explain the
> grounds on which they were allocated these two /8s, and which body
> did the allocation. Anyone?
>
> Sean.I could. Why does it matter?
Oh, openness, transparency, that sort of thing. Nothing really
important.
Nigel
The full RFC2050 justification for a /7's worth of space would
be a mighty and wondrous thing to behold.
Joe
In addition to Genuity's three /8s, and the /8s allocated to Apple
Computer, HP, Ford, GE, Interop Show Network (who are they?), Boeing,
etc...
I have trouble imagining any of these orgs needing over a million IP
addresses...
-C
"Christopher A. Woodfield" wrote:
In addition to Genuity's three /8s, and the /8s allocated to Apple
Computer, HP, Ford, GE, Interop Show Network (who are they?), Boeing,
Interop is the Networld+Interop conference show network. It used to be
simply Interop. I don't remember what the largest peak count of
addresses used at any one time have been, but I'm fairly certain that it
has easily numbered into the thousands for most of the recent U.S. based
shows. A team of people build a very sizable, temporary network to
support each show. The addresses are used for vendor booths,
classrooms, attendees and more test/research-oriented areas (e.g. the
iLabs pavilion).
Its change a bit since the earlier days, but there are still parts of
the network that are quite interesting. If you ever have a chance, its
worth learning about.
As long as the show continues in this present form, I think their space
(45/8) is still justified. Although it is probably worth questioning
from time to time.
John
I'm not sure the current discussion is timely. Do we really want to start a reclaiming effort of IP addresses? Addresses such as Apple's, HP's, IBM's and others were made long before RFC2050.
This space is clearly not justified - there are not, and have never been a
million hosts at Interop. A /16 or so, would be far more appropriate. One
might think that this would be an easy target for ARIN to reclaim, as the
folks involved with the Interop show network, are uniformly clueful and
there are few renumbering burdens.
- Daniel Golding
Well by the looks of things ARIN, RIPE and APNIC are working their way
though about a /8 each every year or so. This means that Class C space (as
such) is going to be used up in a year or two (only 220-223/8 is
unallocated).
There are still over 60 /8s unallocated after that which means we aren't
going to run out for a few years. When the numbers for broadband start
working however things could quickly get tight.
Still it's a bit off when Defence Establishments have /8s and probally a
minimal number of world visable networks while medium sized countries have
less.
A quick check shows that the following /8s have little or nothing of them
advertised into the global routing table. Of course there are probally a
few others that have the /8 ad and almost no actual use.
006/8 Army Information Systems Center
008/8 Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
011/8 DoD Intel Information Systems
019/8 Ford Motor Company
021/8 DDN-RVN
022/8 Defense Information Systems Agency
025/8 Royal Signals and Radar Establishment
026/8 Defense Information Systems Agency
028/8 DSI-North
029/8 Defense Information Systems Agency
030/8 Defense Information Systems Agency
034/8 Halliburton Company
045/8 Interop Show Network
046/8 Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
048/8 Prudential Securities Inc.
051/8 Deparment of Social Security of UK
052/8 E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc.
054/8 Merck and Co., Inc.
056/8 U.S. Postal Service
215/8 US-DOD